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doors is a different story. john boehner doesn't have the leverage he used to have. on a conference call he told house republicans they had to avoid the nasty showdowns that mark so much of the last two years. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell was the number one obstructionist in the president's first term. now he tells "the wall street journal" he'll do whatever it takes to get a deal. i'd be willing to pay the ransom if e we thought we were going to get the hostage out. but the hostage is what? entitlement spending. mcconnell's intention, he's willing to agree to a dollar of new taxes for every dollar in cuts. what a difference an election makes. >> i'm going to ask a question on the stage. they seau had a real spending cuts deal, 10 to 1. spending cuts to tax inkrecreas. spooker, you're already shaking your head. but who on this stage would walk away from that deal? would you raise your hand about not raising taxes. >> remember in 2011 republicans would not take a 10 to 1 tax cut deal? now today mitch mcconnell is willing to do a 1 to 1 deal. republicans lost all of their lever
to recognize, look, john boehner is put on the table this notion of revenues and we think you can get that through growth. we think that you can get that through reforming the tax code. gregg: right. >> but we --. gregg: so you're telling me and the president and white house are just bluffing say, no deal on rates? >> well we've heard this. we heard he will get out of guantanamo. he would cut the deficit in half. all these sorts of things are declarations. but when it comes down to it i think the president does sign an extension because it is the smart move. look, the pathway to move forward is to reform the tax code. where there is such a high level of dissatisfaction, the opportunity is for the president to bring people together around the dissatisfaction and come up with a new, more competitive tax code. gregg: come january, here's what is going to happen. i want to put this up on the screen for our viewers. 158 million americans will be affected. after an average tax hike of $3500. that means that 88% of the households are going to be seeing their taxes go up. as you know, the cbo
a split and one of the interesting ways you can follow it has to do with what -- john boehner versus paul ryan. boehner is pushing for conference shame, republican congresswoman rogers while ryan is pushing tom price who used to run the conservative caucus in the house. if most of the caucus is getting behind them then it's a sign they'll dig in their heels. if they're going with boehner, it's a sign they'll deal. >> i want to bring in a democrat on both the armed services committee and select committee on intelligence and the fiscal cliff if i might. do you think the republicans will come to play? >> i believe that they will. it's my hope that everyone has gotten the message loud and clear that the american people expect us to compromise, democrats and republicans coming together to solve the fiscal cliff issue but in a balanced way and that is certainly what president obama has campaigned on protecting a strong middle class, allowing the tax cuts to expire above $250,000, but we can't be afraid to compromise but we can do that without compromising our principles. >> is part of this deal
connell and john boehner. can you help explain that? >> mitch mcconnell who runs the senate republican caucus, he's definitely playing the role of the bad cop in that he does not want to compromise at all on tax cuts, has taken a much more hard-line approach, has the bulk of his time talking to "the wall street journal" editorial page, basically speaking to the base. where you have speaker boehner talking in much more conciliatory tones and talking about getting a deal. i think that's going to be the dynamic. mitch mcconnell is up for re-election in 2014. in a very conservative state where it's not inconceivable the tea party would run somebody against him if he does not take a hard-line approach. people need to remember that as these negotiations unfold. for boehner, he wants a deal. i do want to comment a second on the interview you had with paul ryan. ryan might not think that there is a mandate, but the president does, congressional democrats do, and the public does, if you look at polling. and there's zero chance that the president is going to compromise on this, which is why i think there's
to be for raising taxes. but let's be clear. when john boehner says, i'm open to raising revenues, he had on the table a proposal to raise taxes. that's what it means when you're raising revenues. they can spin it any way they want, it's raising taxes by $800 billion. so the republican party, in a growing number of folks in the republican party, are on record for raising taxes. and they know the number's going to have to be above 800. that's the floor from last year. i think the actual number will be 1.2 which will be the middle ground between 800 and $1.6 trillion. you don't get to $1.2 trillion without either raising tax rates or changing how we tax investment, which is the reason that a lot of rich people end up paying a very low tax rate. people like mitt romney can pay an effective tax rate of 10% to 15% because so much of their income comes from long-term investment holdings. something has to give. you have to change those things if you want to raise that type of revenue. >> we've talked a lot about the tax side of this, but there's spending cuts that need to be dealt with. no one w
president obama won reelection . he holds the edge in the discussion right now . speaker of the house john boehner immediately saying he generally supportive of trying to close the loop holes. do you see that as raising taxes? >> what boehner said and in the republican position since republican we should reduce rates have economic growth many of which are put in by obama for the solyndra green-type energy programs. let's bring the rates down. boehner was clear he wanted increase revenues it is not a tax increase to put more americans at work. if our recovery was growing the rate reagans did more americans would be at work. in terms of raising revenue which boehner grew about. if you grew the economy at reagan levels instead of two percent and obama and french levels, just growing faster and do that for a decade, the federal government gets trillions in taxes. we could undo the damage by having higher growth. >> gretchen: that's the difference in ideology. raise it to 3#.9 percent x. replace the alternative minimum tax with the buffet and raise the state tax and long-term capitol gains from
movements particularly republicans, john boehner coming out after the election, i get t revenues have to be part of the deal. as george suggested there will be arguments about how you get there but i think when i look at how the politics line up the leverage embedded in going over the cliff and what that means to the president and democrats will push us there. i just want to say macro economically, going over the cliff is a bad thing, no question about it, but going over the cliff and staying over the cliff is a lot worse than going over the cliff and kind of backtracking back up there. >> the bungy. >> the bungy jump. >> we talked about that. >> the slope, the fiscal slope. >> george, where are you on the actual rate itself? there was a conversation boehner said we'll put revenues on the table, keep it at 35%, we'll find the deductions and from the president the first time out he didn't talk about 39.6 and so there was this view amongst some who wanted to hear it somehow he was at the same place and boehner might be willing to do something. i was in d.c. yesterday and others, steve w
. this was the secret negotiation between barack obama and john boehner last year. we don't know all of the pieces that were in it. they offered 8$800 billion in revenue and then on the spending cut side they offered $450 billion in cuts to medicare and medication and changes to the way social security benefits are calculated. a lot of things on the table here. big things both tax increases and spending decreases. it's going to take some combination of those to get to a deal here and it's sort of where they go on this menu of options that's going to lead to whether or not they have votes to do it on capitol hill. >> there's a detail there. cut through it for me if you will. a lot of people around seem to suggest that they're going to get this thing tied up really quite quickly. my concern is that obama is beginning to grandstand. if you look at who he's meeting with, it looks like he might be preparing for a huge fight for his legacy, which actually might push us further back than a lot of people have bargained for. >> what you'll see with obama meeting with progressive groups and business leaders
and he's trying to figure out how to get republicans to build on the conciliatory signals that john boehner's been sending. >> we talked earlier this morning about what the "wall street journal" has at the top and the story that a lot of people have been talking about. laying out $1.6 trillion as the baseline for what he'd like to see. double where the talks left off back in the summer of 2011. is this just an opening bid and we expect it will be somewhere in the middle of those two numbers? >> that's what i expect. i don't think you start out by laying out your bottom line. and remember, that's a bottom line that he laid out publicly in september of 2011 after the grand bargain talks were concluded unsuccessfully. so this is -- this is basically no change in his position. and why would he change having just won an election? but i think you're going to see some back and forth. and if question is how much revenue can you get from closing deductions and loopholes and if so, what kind? and do rates need to rise in order to get the revenue you need to make a deal? and i think what he wa
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